Raf and Kevin. The guys from Verbal Tapcast, Jiu Jitsu practitioners.
Raf on Kevin:
"I’m not exactly sure what Kevin does. He’s told me a bunch of times, but I never remember it because it all sounds like a bunch of BS. He claims he’s a “knowledge management analyst,” who specializes in problem solving and decision making—which, if you ask me (and you are), sounds like a whole bunch of lies. Allegedly he teaches a series of courses on “organizational communication” and, on occasion, will try to convince me that his line of work involves some kind of “consulting.” Again, I don’t believe a word of it. All I know is that his job might occasionally involve spreadsheets and that his jiu-ijtsu sweeps from half-guard are pretty good."
Kevin on Raf:
"No one live tweets nonsensical network shows like Raf Esparza. He’s a comedy writer (especially if we’re using the term loosely) and about half the time he makes people laugh. I’ve personally never found him to be charming, but other people seem to. He now officially uses his hypothetical comedy power to give a unique perspective on his own evolution of jiujitsu and (shockingly) people keep reading and demanding more of it. Host of the very creatively named comedy show Early Late Night with Raf Esparza, Raf is as comfortable on stage making people laugh as he is hard to choke because of his large sized head."
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